i like that hayley, i think its good to start looking at how things we are thinking of doing have been done before, i found this link it has abit of ice but also if we are thinking of doing a fire, me an james have been talking about how to do a fire, hes going to show us how they done it on coraline, its meant to be very good, but i think a real fire would look good also and be quicker..maybe?anyway heres the link
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XxXQtshXJu4